needsaconstant: (Scientist talk.)
Daniel Faraday ([personal profile] needsaconstant) wrote2009-04-21 03:10 pm

Physics is My Specialty


Since I don't have my journal, I'll just have to make do. I'm sorry if the stuff I record here doesn't make any sense to you, but it does to me.
I don't want to start forgetting again...

F = 96 485.339 9(24) C/mol
F=Avogadro's number times the elementary change of an electron (e)
Avagadro's number= 6.022x10 to the 23rd power mols to the negative one power
e= 1.602x10 to the negative 19th power C

m=(Q/F)(M/z)
m is the mass of the substance altered at an electrode
Q is the total electric charge passed through the substance
F = 96 485 C mol-1 is the Faraday constant
M is the molar mass of the substance
z is the valence number of ions of the substance (electrons transferred per ion)

Using Eddington-Finkelstein Coordinates (V, R) removes (?) the singularity at R=2m As R gets smaller - Light Cones tip over.

Oh, and by the way...could I stay somewhere with any of you? I don't really like walking around these streets, if you know what I mean.

[identity profile] illusiondamage.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know some of those names, but the formulas still look like physics. Are you a scientist of some sort, as well?

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I'm a physicist. I've spent most of my entire adult life studying space and time.

Are you a scientist, too?

she understands more about physics than I ever will |D;

[identity profile] illusiondamage.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a little bit over my head, but I studied the concepts in school.

Yes. My concentration was bio-genetic engineering.
greennotgold: (Blank)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
What is a "mol" and a "light cone"?

I've read about singularities. Don't those exist only in black holes?

Same goes for me and Dan here >>

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. So they actually have physics in your world too?

I had a couple coworkers in Oxford- it's a college- who dealt with genetics.

I have some understanding of biology, but my interest was mostly geared towards physics.

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
A "mol" stand for mole, which is a unit of a substance. Kinda like liters and quarts, which measure the amount of something.

The light cone is a light cone, though it is used to prove time travel in a general relativity in a certain experiment.

Yes, singularities do exist only in black holes, but it can be proven that they exist in the space-time continuim as well.
greennotgold: (Science!)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's several minutes before Fletcher responds to this comment.]

Oh! Light cones are mentioned in this book here. It's the hypothetical cone formed by all the information that can reach and be reached by a particular point in space-time, right? What does it mean to say that they "tip over"?

So then is m=(Q/F)(M/z) an equation describing a singularity?

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You have books? Where did you get them?

Well, physically, the tipping of the light cones is an indication that timelike observers traveling across the horizon cannot escape back out beyond the horizon. In general relativity, an event horizon is a boundary in spacetime, an area surrounding a black hole, inside which events cannot affect an outside observer.

And the m=(Q/F)(M/z)is the basic summarization of Faraday's (no relation) laws of electrolysis.
greennotgold: (Bookworm)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
[Several more minutes pass, because he needs to look all this stuff up.]

Here in the library. It's at 5th Ave and 40th St near Bryant Park.

Oh, I see! That's a good way to visualize it...

Electrolysis? Oh, I need to go look that up...

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Okay, I think I should head over there then. I want to look up some stuff too.

I just wonder; where did you learn this? Because even most of the people I know have no idea what I'm talking about most of the time.
greennotgold: (Shy but happy)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I lived here in the library with my brother for a while. I didn't have a lot to do most of the time besides reading, and I've always been interested in science, so...

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
And you've learned all of that by reading? You have a bright mind, young fellow.

I didn't understand those concepts until years of practice and hard studying.

By the way, the name's Daniel Faraday. I'm sorry if I didn't introduce myself before...I was rather caught up in the discussion of science.
greennotgold: (It's dangerous to go alone.)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I already knew a lot about chemistry from studying back home. I've been studying for years, so I've had plenty of time to learn. I'm not sure I even have it right, I just know what the books say, so...

That's okay! It's very nice to meet you, Mr. Faraday. My name is Fletcher Tringham.

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice to meet you, Fletcher.

Books are good! Yes, sometimes some of the stuff they say isn't quite right, but that is why the world has scientists- to prove or disprove the theories out there.

And so, your world also has chemistry? It's odd how so many worlds have similar concepts...the theory was in my world that if there were any other worlds besides ours, they would be absolutely different in all aspects.
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[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what I think science is for, too.

It's not exactly the same. I guess in most other worlds, alchemy never developed the way it did in my world. For us, chemistry is just a part of alchemy, which is the process of understanding, breaking down, and reconstructing matter. Do you have that in your world, sir?

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Alchemy? Like turning iron into gold? Like making the Philosopher's Stone?

No, alchemy was a part of science in my world, but only way back in our world's history. It isn't used any more, since all that "turning iron into gold" didn't really result in anything- as such, some people died when they ingested poison which they thought was the "Elixer of Life".

So, how does alchemy work in your world, by any chance?
greennotgold: (An icon that won't see much use)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not exactly like that. What alchemists do is break something down to its material components and rearrange that into something else that's similar in construction and mass. We can't make more than what we have, and changing one element into another is something only a highly skilled alchemist could do. And making gold is against the law in my country, to protect the economy or something.

The Philosopher's Stone... nobody's even sure if it really exists.

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting! So, it's sort of breaking down any material to the point where it can't be divided any more, am I correct? Because in my world, the smallest unit of matter is called an atom, and atoms comprise everything in the world.

Of course, sticking to the atom theory, the reason why you can't change another element into another is because of the atoms- each atom has it's own number of electrons. So technically, gold can never be turned into silver, for example.
But...then how would you change iron into gold, then?

The Philosopher's Stone doesn't exist in my world and probably never will. However, that doesn't stop anyone from writing stories about it.
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[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The more something is broken down, the more energy it takes, so we usually only go down to the molecular level, or even higher than that. My brother and I specialize in transmuting plants, and the lowest level we need to manipulate for that is the structure of the cells.

I'm not sure how changing one element into another works. It might involve splitting apart the nuclei, but if that's how it works then from what I've read there must be a major difference between the laws of physics in my world and in this world... I can ask somebody when we all go home, but I don't know if there would be a way to transmit that information to another universe.

The stories I've heard about the Philosopher's Stone say that it's able to help alchemists bypass the laws of equivalent exchange and conservation of matter. I've heard that there have been imitations made that helped to that end, but they were never as strong as the real thing was said to be.

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. So you can willingly change the structure of the molecular levels...

Splitting the nuclei of an atom is rather catastrophic- although there are known smaller entities within the nuclei itself, harnessing all the power within that nucleus is rather impossible.

We've even used the power of the atom in bombs- they can blow up entire cities, and even the ones who survive that are pelted with the worst radiation.

It is possible, though, that the laws of physics differ in different worlds...there may be even a world where there is no gravity.

Hmmm...so that Philosopher's stone is like a substance that doesn't quite follow the rules of alchemy? I wonder what such a stone would be made of.

[identity profile] just-like-daddy.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
The basic theory of turning lead into gold requires a third party introduced into the equation. I can't tell you much more than that. I can make anything look like gold, but creating 24 kt gold is something else entirely.

Don't talk too loud about those bombs too close to the ears of our military. They already have alchemists on the payroll as human weapons, they don't need to get someone to split the atom on the battlefield.

A world with no gravity wouldn't exist. At least, according to some things we've read here.

You and every alchemist in the history of our world has asked that question. Who knows when we'll find the answer?
greennotgold: (Huh...)

[personal profile] greennotgold 2009-04-21 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like my brother is spying on me...

I'm not sure about whether there could be a world without gravity. According to the hypothesis that says it's a bending of space-time, such a universe would have to have no mass. But that could be wrong, considering that what I've read says that hypothesis doesn't work with quantum mechanics (I don't get any of the stuff I've read about quantum mechanics, though).

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well hello there. I can see I'm no longer talking to Fletcher anymore. My name is Daniel Faraday.

Well, we can also make artificial gold. But it doesn't really have anything to do with alchemy; we just make a metal and color it gold, and sell it.

Human weapons? Dear me, scientists as human weapons? That must have been a sad day indeed when your country decided to do that.

True, our laws of physics state that such a world wouldn't exist. But who knows? I've been surprised to find many things that have challenged my perception of other worlds since I've gotten here.

Me, an alchemist? Well, I'm more of a scientist. But, in your world's case, I am an alchemist, I guess. And yes, there are too many mysteries in the world that we will probaby never find out.

Such is the futility of mankind...

[identity profile] ineedaconstant.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Your brother? Oh, I see.

Well, if I do remember from a book I've read, if life existed in two dimensions, it would have no mass. But such a world doesn't exist, at least not yet...

I'm a little fuzzy on quantum mechanics, so I have no idea if that hypothesis works ith it or not.

But, I just have to believe that the only law of physics the worlds share in common is the law of gravity.

[identity profile] just-like-daddy.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm Russel. Fletcher's my little brother.

For example, the most famous one from the last war is Col. Roy Mustang, the Flame Alchemist. He has special gloves with a transmutation circle on the back. He snaps with them, creating a spark. The circle isolates the oxygen in the air to create explosions. It has to require an immense amount of concentration to do that to the molecules. No one has been able to replicate it.

No, you're a physicist. I should mention that our asylums have a rather high population of them.

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